Are We Bad or Good by Nature? - The Catholic Thing : "Catholics of the right are basically, whether they realize it or not, Augustinians; and Catholics of the left, whether they realize it or not, are basically Rousseauvians." What has this got to do with marriage? Catholic couples who are on the same page in the Augustine vs Rousseau debate, will have less strife in their lives. I would even argue that children raised under an Augustinian point of view will grow up to see a need for the Church and Religion in their lives- and children raised under Rousseau's point of view, leave the church to try to create their own Utopia, their own Heaven on Earth. So, dear imaginary couple I'm writing this blog for- who are you? Have you discussed this with your spouse or your intended spouse? Are human beings good, and evil just a bad coincidence? Or are human beings bad, and good only comes by the grace of God and listening to wisdom?